Joe Rogan: “My Position On This [Epstein Files] Has Completely Shifted, Now I Am Like This Is Clearly Demonic”

Joe Rogan recently revealed his shift in perspective on the Jeffrey Epstein files during a conversation with Dr. Robert Malone on episode #2454 of The Joe Rogan Experience.

“My position on it has completely shifted,” Rogan explained when discussing the latest Epstein file release. “I thought there’s probably some really sick people that have an appetite for that, but I hadn’t seen any real evidence for it until these files. And now I’m like, oh, this is clearly demonic.”

The podcast host admitted that before seeing the documented evidence, he maintained skepticism about the full extent of alleged misconduct.

“I don’t think we really knew until we saw those files come out,” he said. “And then you go, oh, well, there’s no denying it now.”

Rogan pointed specifically to the content revealed in email exchanges that left little room for alternative interpretation. “When you see in the email like clear evidence that they’re talking about children in pretty obscene ways, horrifying ways,” he said, expressing his surprise.

He noted references throughout the documents that appeared to be coded language. “There’s one of them where Epstein says, I enjoyed the to rture video. There’s these references to pizza. A lot of references to pizza that are 100 percent some kind of a code.”

The files also prompted Rogan to reconsider previously dismissed theories. “And then it brings you back to Pizzagate, which was widely dismissed. You know, everybody’s like, oh, this is a bunch of cooks. Here it is.”

When defining what he meant by “demonic,” Rogan clarified: “Demonic by action. So whether or not demons exist, if they did exist, that is how they would behave. They would prey on children and torture children.”

“It’s completely changed most people’s narrative of what happened,” Rogan observed. “Like we had this sort of vague understanding, you know, but when you see in the email like clear evidence.”

Dr. Malone acknowledged the gravity of Rogan’s statement, noting the theological implications. “It’s hard to come up with the language to express what we’re observing in the world other than the language of theology,” Malone said.