Comedian and podcaster Tim Dillon did not hold back when he sat down with Piers Morgan in London, delivering a criticism of Donald Trump’s foreign policy decisions and what they mean for the political movement that helped put him back in the White House.
Dillon, who hosts one of the most widely followed podcasts in America and is frequently labeled a MAGA-adjacent voice, told Morgan plainly that he now considers MAGA “the biggest con in history.”
The reason? Trump’s pivot toward military intervention in Iran.
“This turn to Iran to interventionism to me feels like the biggest betrayal of a political movement I’ve ever seen in my life,” Dillon said.
For Dillon, the betrayal cuts deep because the anti-interventionist message was central to what made Trump’s political rise feel genuinely different.
“One of Trump’s best ideas, because I grew up during the Iraq war and Afghanistan, was that we should stay out of unwinnable foreign conflicts and focus on the economic well-being of the American people,” he said. “And that’s been completely thrown out the window.”
Dillon traced the pressure behind the decision directly to Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.
“I think it was pressure from Netanyahu. I think that’s a pretty rational way to think about it. I don’t believe that Trump thought this was in America’s best interest. I think he was kind of convinced one way or another to enter the war without a plan.”
He also pointed to Republican donor class influence as a driving factor.
“A lot of the Republican donor class, people like Miriam Adelson, that have given Trump a lot of money, are very fervently pro-Iran war and believe that regime needs to be taken out. I think it was kind of understood that if we give you this money and you win again, we’re going after Iran.”
Dillon said he believed Trump now regrets the decision. He stated, “I think he regrets it now and I think he thought it was going to be like Venezuela or like k*lling Soleimani.”
The political fallout, in Dillon’s view, will extend well beyond Trump himself.
“I think Trump’s damaged the Republican brand in the near future for years to come,” he said.
Morgan pressed Dillon on whether he would have voted for Trump, to which the comedian said probably yes, adding that he considered Kamala Harris and Biden “a disaster.” But that made the Iran decision all the more frustrating for him.
“He got off to a cracking start shutting the border down pretty well completely to illegal immigrants coming in, which was a masterstroke that should have been done years before,” Morgan said. “He could have taken those wins and built off that.”
